“Well, it didn’t surprise me,” van der Waal replied when asked what he thought when the uproar broke out around Matthijs van Nieuwerk. “I don’t know him very well, but I’ve seen him a lot. I think he’s a great guy. I’ve also heard enough stories to confirm that.
He himself was part of the permanent DWDD crew, until Van der Wal was banned. “I’ve been pretty much a part of decorating for a long time,” says Dutch, who will start his own late-night talk show on Play4 this weekend. “They’ve always described themselves as the starship, meaning if you’re on it, you’ll be on it, and if you’re not on it, you won’t have it. And I really sat on it for a while.”
“But at one point I was a guest with Wim DB. We were going to do something about elections, on the Internet, which was still new at the time. Well, Mathis is very fond of pre-talk. The guest must say exactly the same thing on the show as It was discussed in the introductory interview. If you deviate from the script, it becomes difficult. So we asked what we’re going to do. And Wim DB said: We don’t say that. Just watch. Well, he wasn’t amused then. In the meantime, I just thought: I won’t disagree Wim DB, right? After that he was really angry and told me later that he didn’t want me around anymore. That took eight or nine years until they needed me for the Charlie Hebdo attacks in Paris, which is where I was at the time.”
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