“I tore my cruciate ligaments after that, did I?”, recalls Juri Mulder of the match against Günter Schiepens’ side.

Guests on the table, Juri Mulder (Schalke 04) and Gunther Schepens (Karlsruhe), have a past in the Bundesliga. But have they ever played against each other?

“I don't think so,” Mulder says.

“I think so,” Shibins contradicts Mulder.

When Shebeens puts 1997 on the table, it rings a bell for Mulder.

“I tore my cruciate ligament in that match,” the Dutchman recalls. “Did you do that?”

3 weeks ago, Roma released Jose Mourinho. According to the Portuguese, the players sent him off.

Guenther Schebens admits that during his time in Buffalo he once massaged a coach to the exit.

“We won the first 7 games, but it wasn't working out and that had an impact on the results in the long term,” Shibins tells his story.

“What did we do to get the coach out? Everything.”

If Gunther Schebens goes, Philipp Goss already knows the target he will show in the Heat Journal.

“Technically, I wasn't that skilled as a player. But out of the three guests here at the table, I was the most skilled player,” Schepens said with a laugh, as his world-class goal against Bielefeld was played out.